Comments on: Documentary Work http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2010/03/documentary-work/ Building tools for replicable, open source, post-scarcity resilient communities Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:59:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: LifeTrac II Update | Open Source Ecology http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2010/03/documentary-work/comment-page-1/#comment-90501 LifeTrac II Update | Open Source Ecology Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:33:19 +0000 http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=1636#comment-90501 [...] various wheel mounting and loader arm mounting components. This is another beautiful production by Sean: GD Star Ratingloading...GD Star Ratingloading... Share It Hide Sites [...] [...] various wheel mounting and loader arm mounting components. This is another beautiful production by Sean: GD Star Ratingloading…GD Star Ratingloading… Share It Hide Sites [...]

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By: Pipping | Open Source Ecology http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2010/03/documentary-work/comment-page-1/#comment-88284 Pipping | Open Source Ecology Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:44:16 +0000 http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=1636#comment-88284 [...] the first set of pips from Hexahatch v2.0. Here is an update on the other peeps of Factor e Farm. Sean and I will be doing full fabrication documentation on the next copy of The Liberator, where the [...] [...] the first set of pips from Hexahatch v2.0. Here is an update on the other peeps of Factor e Farm. Sean and I will be doing full fabrication documentation on the next copy of The Liberator, where the [...]

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By: Getting Ready To Build: A Better Future | Open Source Ecology http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2010/03/documentary-work/comment-page-1/#comment-87791 Getting Ready To Build: A Better Future | Open Source Ecology Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:23:06 +0000 http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=1636#comment-87791 [...] and we have 70 eggs in there at present. We also deployed Prototype I of a honey extractor. Plus, Sean is on-site for the summer gathering documentary material, and his LifeTrac II update is choice. [...] [...] and we have 70 eggs in there at present. We also deployed Prototype I of a honey extractor. Plus, Sean is on-site for the summer gathering documentary material, and his LifeTrac II update is choice. [...]

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By: LifeTrac II: Frame | Open Source Ecology http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2010/03/documentary-work/comment-page-1/#comment-85923 LifeTrac II: Frame | Open Source Ecology Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:48:10 +0000 http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=1636#comment-85923 [...] are some additional details from Sean’s video documentation work regarding the frame of the open source tractor – LifeTrac – Prototype II. William [...] [...] are some additional details from Sean’s video documentation work regarding the frame of the open source tractor – LifeTrac – Prototype II. William [...]

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By: June Agriculture Walkthrough at Factor e Farm | Open Source Ecology http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2010/03/documentary-work/comment-page-1/#comment-85259 June Agriculture Walkthrough at Factor e Farm | Open Source Ecology Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:55:26 +0000 http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=1636#comment-85259 [...] is a video produced by Sean, on the agriculture overview of Factor e Farm: The bottom line is that resilience in food is not [...] [...] is a video produced by Sean, on the agriculture overview of Factor e Farm: The bottom line is that resilience in food is not [...]

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By: 3 Minute Video on Factor e Farm and The Liberator | Open Source Ecology http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2010/03/documentary-work/comment-page-1/#comment-84284 3 Minute Video on Factor e Farm and The Liberator | Open Source Ecology Tue, 06 Jul 2010 18:05:58 +0000 http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=1636#comment-84284 [...] Sean is here for a part of the summer to gather footage for his documentary on the beginnings of Factor e Farm. The time lapses in the last blog post are also part of his work. Here is a 3 minute video about Factor e Farm and The Liberator open source CEB press. [...] [...] Sean is here for a part of the summer to gather footage for his documentary on the beginnings of Factor e Farm. The time lapses in the last blog post are also part of his work. Here is a 3 minute video about Factor e Farm and The Liberator open source CEB press. [...]

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By: Initial CEB Field Testing Report – The Liberator Beta v2.0 | Open Source Ecology http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2010/03/documentary-work/comment-page-1/#comment-75244 Initial CEB Field Testing Report – The Liberator Beta v2.0 | Open Source Ecology Tue, 04 May 2010 19:35:44 +0000 http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=1636#comment-75244 [...] had Sean and his crew do some documentation on the brick pressing day, so more higher quality video footage should be [...] [...] had Sean and his crew do some documentation on the brick pressing day, so more higher quality video footage should be [...]

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By: Karl http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2010/03/documentary-work/comment-page-1/#comment-68573 Karl Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:22:45 +0000 http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=1636#comment-68573 The desire to act is necessary, but in the environmental model of behavior I'm talking about (I'm sure there's some formal term for this, but I'm no psychologist) you can think of desire as the fulcrum of creation, not the source of it. What sets the fulcrum in place? What creates the wants and desires? We are embedded in our world and our minds are fed with sensory input. We can only comprehend what we have experienced. Our wants are restricted to those experiences. Yes, we can run mental simulations, but the components being simulated can only come from our set of experiences, and when our well-being is on the line, we stick with what is known to work. That is why your plan of 'building the village' is the correct one. Most people won't accept that this can be done until they can experience it. Those that accept that it can be done are still tied to the successful modes of behavior that are serving them in the current society. Your task is a thankless one, and the movement will grow slowly. Even after large corporations were making effective use of open source software for many years, the products of that movement were ridiculed. Changing culture, those patterns of behavior which get picked up from the environment and fixed in the brian, takes time and dedication. The desire to act is necessary, but in the environmental model of behavior I’m talking about (I’m sure there’s some formal term for this, but I’m no psychologist) you can think of desire as the fulcrum of creation, not the source of it. What sets the fulcrum in place? What creates the wants and desires? We are embedded in our world and our minds are fed with sensory input. We can only comprehend what we have experienced. Our wants are restricted to those experiences. Yes, we can run mental simulations, but the components being simulated can only come from our set of experiences, and when our well-being is on the line, we stick with what is known to work. That is why your plan of ‘building the village’ is the correct one. Most people won’t accept that this can be done until they can experience it. Those that accept that it can be done are still tied to the successful modes of behavior that are serving them in the current society.

Your task is a thankless one, and the movement will grow slowly. Even after large corporations were making effective use of open source software for many years, the products of that movement were ridiculed. Changing culture, those patterns of behavior which get picked up from the environment and fixed in the brian, takes time and dedication.

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By: LucasG http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2010/03/documentary-work/comment-page-1/#comment-68507 LucasG Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:12:41 +0000 http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=1636#comment-68507 Nick and Marcin, We're all different and in different circumstances. It's good that some cover interesting ground, making it easier for the next wave of people. Also, the future is quite difficult to predict, at least in detail. So it's best to have several options ready. I'd be glad to see even a fraction of OSE's intentions come true, step by step, within the next couple of years. OSE can then be part of the future. Modularity is good as a key feature: just as one example, the CNC table torch may end up working with solar, gassified wood, algae, or whatever. Nick and Marcin,

We’re all different and in different circumstances. It’s good that some cover interesting ground, making it easier for the next wave of people.

Also, the future is quite difficult to predict, at least in detail. So it’s best to have several options ready.

I’d be glad to see even a fraction of OSE’s intentions come true, step by step, within the next couple of years. OSE can then be part of the future.

Modularity is good as a key feature: just as one example, the CNC table torch may end up working with solar, gassified wood, algae, or whatever.

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By: Nick http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2010/03/documentary-work/comment-page-1/#comment-68343 Nick Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:31:11 +0000 http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=1636#comment-68343 Marcin, IMO you underestimate the socio-economic forces that are opposing the development of resilent communities at present. For starters you are talking about solar based communities, fueled either directly through the sun, or indirectly through biomass and wind. No one has yet demostrated the ability to "prosper" as you so often talk about on these energy sources, let alone compete economically versus fossil fueled industries (big ag, manufacturing ect). I suspect that this just isn't as easy as we imagine nor as pleasant and unfortunately we may not make the shift until sheer neccesity. Less abstractly most everyone I know has bills, loans ect that they are obligated to. Its the very rare person who is ready willing, and able to invest there time and hard efforts for no garaunteed return. Yes we as a country and people need to invest in efforts such as OSE, desperately so, but it also is not suprising to me that we aren't. I suspect that these investments won't happen until conditions force us to reorganize our lives out of necessity. Marcin,
IMO you underestimate the socio-economic forces that are opposing the development of resilent communities at present.

For starters you are talking about solar based communities, fueled either directly through the sun, or indirectly through biomass and wind. No one has yet demostrated the ability to “prosper” as you so often talk about on these energy sources, let alone compete economically versus fossil fueled industries (big ag, manufacturing ect). I suspect that this just isn’t as easy as we imagine nor as pleasant and unfortunately we may not make the shift until sheer neccesity.

Less abstractly most everyone I know has bills, loans ect that they are obligated to. Its the very rare person who is ready willing, and able to invest there time and hard efforts for no garaunteed return.

Yes we as a country and people need to invest in efforts such as OSE, desperately so, but it also is not suprising to me that we aren’t. I suspect that these investments won’t happen until conditions force us to reorganize our lives out of necessity.

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By: Marcin http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2010/03/documentary-work/comment-page-1/#comment-68284 Marcin Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:15:39 +0000 http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=1636#comment-68284 Karl, very insightful regarding the distinction between <em>wanting</em> vs. <em>being able to</em> become fully responsible. However, I question this point deeply. Is it not true that <em>being able to</em> starts with <em>wanting</em>? Therefore, the real question is that people don't really <em>want to</em>. I can speak about myself here. I <em>wanted</em> to dive right into 'saving the world' after finishing school. I don't believe I was any more <em>able to</em> become fully responsible - outside of my profound desire and commitment to doing that. I think it is the desire that makes me able to do this. If we take this discussion into practical terms - the conclusion is that we must continue 'to build the village and they will come.' I think we all agree that our main role is lowering the entry barriers to 'caring deeply about the world.' We take the approach to this question from a very practical perspective - transcending the provision of basic needs - as a means to more evolved pursuits. Karl, very insightful regarding the distinction between wanting vs. being able to become fully responsible. However, I question this point deeply. Is it not true that being able to starts with wanting? Therefore, the real question is that people don’t really want to. I can speak about myself here. I wanted to dive right into ‘saving the world’ after finishing school. I don’t believe I was any more able to become fully responsible – outside of my profound desire and commitment to doing that. I think it is the desire that makes me able to do this.
If we take this discussion into practical terms – the conclusion is that we must continue ‘to build the village and they will come.’ I think we all agree that our main role is lowering the entry barriers to ‘caring deeply about the world.’ We take the approach to this question from a very practical perspective – transcending the provision of basic needs – as a means to more evolved pursuits.

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By: Karl http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2010/03/documentary-work/comment-page-1/#comment-68210 Karl Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:24:45 +0000 http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=1636#comment-68210 Why did you assume that people want to take responsibility for their world? It seems fairly obvious to me, based upon what I observe of others as well as in myself, that they do not. It might be more useful to think of it in terms of people not being *able* to be fully responsible. It's not just an issue of willingness. I think of humans as simply animals which have just barely passed the threshold of self-consciousness. Our ability to reason and focus our attention is terribly limited, and we are creatures of habit. We should accept our limitations (that this is just the nature of the human brain) and work with this problem in mind. That is why the concepts of open source and automation are so very important. If any one person makes observations about how the world works or constructs tools to automate labor or calculation, these need to be made available to everyone. That is the only way we will make significant progress as a species. Mental focus which is spent meeting basic needs cannot be used to explore new ideas. Each idea shared becomes the seed for the next new idea. We should endeavor to plant as many seeds as possible. It must be said that our culture is undoubtedly responsible for a great deal of our 'stupidity'. If we were all given an education more focused on the foundations of life, we could engage our world in a more constructive manner. Every child should be taught how to grow food, husband animals, build homes, program computers, etc. Instead, we are taught how to worship imaginary beings, scam each other for the virtual resource of money, and idolize those who play meaningless, competitive games. Why did you assume that people want to take responsibility for their world? It seems fairly obvious to me, based upon what I observe of others as well as in myself, that they do not.

It might be more useful to think of it in terms of people not being *able* to be fully responsible. It’s not just an issue of willingness. I think of humans as simply animals which have just barely passed the threshold of self-consciousness. Our ability to reason and focus our attention is terribly limited, and we are creatures of habit. We should accept our limitations (that this is just the nature of the human brain) and work with this problem in mind.

That is why the concepts of open source and automation are so very important. If any one person makes observations about how the world works or constructs tools to automate labor or calculation, these need to be made available to everyone. That is the only way we will make significant progress as a species. Mental focus which is spent meeting basic needs cannot be used to explore new ideas. Each idea shared becomes the seed for the next new idea. We should endeavor to plant as many seeds as possible.

It must be said that our culture is undoubtedly responsible for a great deal of our ‘stupidity’. If we were all given an education more focused on the foundations of life, we could engage our world in a more constructive manner. Every child should be taught how to grow food, husband animals, build homes, program computers, etc. Instead, we are taught how to worship imaginary beings, scam each other for the virtual resource of money, and idolize those who play meaningless, competitive games.

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